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	<title>Comments on: Fighting the Framework</title>
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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t Mix Your Serialization &#171; Infovark Underground</title>
		<link>http://underground.infovark.com/2008/05/06/fighting-the-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Don&#8217;t Mix Your Serialization &#171; Infovark Underground</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you can forget about the DataContractJsonSerializer. Or you can accept that you&#8217;re fighting the framework, forget about your fancy-pants XML format, and accept the default serialization, keeping these data [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you can forget about the DataContractJsonSerializer. Or you can accept that you&#8217;re fighting the framework, forget about your fancy-pants XML format, and accept the default serialization, keeping these data [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
		<link>http://underground.infovark.com/2008/05/06/fighting-the-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 19:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though my comments about Fighting the Framework included my current frustration with C#, it&#039;s a problem endemic to programming. Jon Skeet, author of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/C-Depth-What-need-master/dp/1933988363&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;C# in Depth&lt;/a&gt;, wrote about the phenomenon in a &lt;a href=&quot;http://msmvps.com/blogs/jon.skeet/archive/2008/04/23/programming-quot-in-quot-a-language-vs-programming-quot-into-quot-a-language.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;recent blog post about programming languages&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though my comments about Fighting the Framework included my current frustration with C#, it&#8217;s a problem endemic to programming. Jon Skeet, author of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/C-Depth-What-need-master/dp/1933988363" rel="nofollow">C# in Depth</a>, wrote about the phenomenon in a <a href="http://msmvps.com/blogs/jon.skeet/archive/2008/04/23/programming-quot-in-quot-a-language-vs-programming-quot-into-quot-a-language.aspx" rel="nofollow">recent blog post about programming languages</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Jacobs</title>
		<link>http://underground.infovark.com/2008/05/06/fighting-the-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 20:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3 months ago I knew little or nothing about REST in .NET and when I got the assignment of figuring out how to build RESTful services with .NET I have to say I felt much of the same feelings that you did.  Was it frustrating to fight with the framework? Yes indeed it was, but soon I figured out how things worked and now I feel much better.  

The good news is that the WCF team is most definitely working on improving the experience.  In fact we are having some meetings on this next week so if you have any ideas, please let us know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 months ago I knew little or nothing about REST in .NET and when I got the assignment of figuring out how to build RESTful services with .NET I have to say I felt much of the same feelings that you did.  Was it frustrating to fight with the framework? Yes indeed it was, but soon I figured out how things worked and now I feel much better.  </p>
<p>The good news is that the WCF team is most definitely working on improving the experience.  In fact we are having some meetings on this next week so if you have any ideas, please let us know.</p>
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		<title>By: Building Community the Hard Way &#171; Infovark</title>
		<link>http://underground.infovark.com/2008/05/06/fighting-the-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Building Community the Hard Way &#171; Infovark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 15:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] long as I&#8217;m picking on Microsoft for releasing developer tools before they&#8217;re fully baked &#8212; a cornerstone of Microsoft [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] long as I&#8217;m picking on Microsoft for releasing developer tools before they&#8217;re fully baked &#8212; a cornerstone of Microsoft [...]</p>
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